This is how I write Org 13 and I write ... well, I've done minor writing of EVERYONE, actually, but I focus on Naminé, Axel, Roxas, Demyx, Larxene, Marluxia, Saïx, and sometimes Xemnas and Xigbar. But I have written every single humanoid Nobody and done some play with the Dusks, Assasins, Dancers, Berserkers, and Samurai.
One thing that is clear to me is that the neophytes (Saïx-Naminé) do not seem to know that they don't have hearts. They are more prone to "showing emotion" than the original six, and we get Roxas' back story and he seems to have no been aware until it was pointed out to him. I think that's meaningful. That Axel obviously has a conflict of "I don't have a heart, but this guy makes me feel like I have a heart."
Still, I think there is something missing. Just not something you could place. I mean, hearts in KH world physically exist outside the bloodpumping hunk of muscle. They're the metaphysical seat of emotion, but they are a physical thing that even worlds have.
I think memory is important. I write Axel the most frequently as doing things because he thinks that's what he should feel or do or say. You can remember what anger is and what ought to anger you... I mean, what I gather from people who are doped up, it's shockingly easy to fascimilate emotions. I use what I know about antisocial personality disorder and other mental illnesses to think about the concept of having no seat of emotions. I also think, hey, maybe since Kairi is the Princess of Heart and all good, that Hearts only represent nice fluffy emotions. Maybe Darkness can hold emotion too. In which case, lust, jealousy, anger, hatred, desperation, selfishness... Are all within the range for a Nobody and what they want to feel is joy and love and whatnot. Things, I think, Xehanort/Xemnas/Ansem the Heartless may well have lacked long before he lost his heart.
And Axel's not the only one with doubts about hearts! I think people too easily dismiss Demyx's "We do too have hearts!" line. Demyx is NOT a good actor. He's arguably not "not a good fighter" since he kicked my ass like five times, but he is DEFINITELY not a good actor. So that he'd be lying, no, no, I think he's genuinely in denial. I think he's been told, but he simply doesn't believe it. God knows about Demyx. I feel so bad for him.
Not that Axel isn't curious, but for different reasons I hope will be explored. I'm interested in the new shiny CoM scenes in KH2:FM+, because there he honestly looks far more cold and evil than I ever suspected they were trying to present. The Axel around Roxas is an Axel that doesn't exist to ANYONE ELSE. Axel, then, is also kind of a bad fit. I actually suspect, what with Marluxia and Larxene, and then the basement crew, that the Organization is not half as organized as you'd think. I don't think they can play nicely, or that they have any organized concept of what they are. Even the scientists, I don't think they totally understood hearts then or understand them now. Maybe a heart isn't all you need to feel, maybe you wouldn't know you didn't have a heart unless someone pointed it out.
I don't think Axel's comments after his death to Roxas in the Final Mix are to say that Roxas does have a heart. If that was the case I think he'd be more interesting for that then having a keyblade and Vexen would have cut him up to find it and discover it's secrets. And if Roxas had a heart, Naminé would too (she's just as special damnit!) and she seems very aware that she doesn't and that her heart is in Kairi. So, no, I think he's actually trying to point out that no one has a CLUE about hearts. Maybe Axel could feel and he's just one of those codependent assholes who, like a bitchy siamese cat, only loves one person in the world and HATES EVERYBODY ELSE.
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Date: 2007-10-22 05:36 pm (UTC)One thing that is clear to me is that the neophytes (Saïx-Naminé) do not seem to know that they don't have hearts. They are more prone to "showing emotion" than the original six, and we get Roxas' back story and he seems to have no been aware until it was pointed out to him. I think that's meaningful. That Axel obviously has a conflict of "I don't have a heart, but this guy makes me feel like I have a heart."
Still, I think there is something missing. Just not something you could place. I mean, hearts in KH world physically exist outside the bloodpumping hunk of muscle. They're the metaphysical seat of emotion, but they are a physical thing that even worlds have.
I think memory is important. I write Axel the most frequently as doing things because he thinks that's what he should feel or do or say. You can remember what anger is and what ought to anger you... I mean, what I gather from people who are doped up, it's shockingly easy to fascimilate emotions. I use what I know about antisocial personality disorder and other mental illnesses to think about the concept of having no seat of emotions. I also think, hey, maybe since Kairi is the Princess of Heart and all good, that Hearts only represent nice fluffy emotions. Maybe Darkness can hold emotion too. In which case, lust, jealousy, anger, hatred, desperation, selfishness... Are all within the range for a Nobody and what they want to feel is joy and love and whatnot. Things, I think, Xehanort/Xemnas/Ansem the Heartless may well have lacked long before he lost his heart.
And Axel's not the only one with doubts about hearts! I think people too easily dismiss Demyx's "We do too have hearts!" line. Demyx is NOT a good actor. He's arguably not "not a good fighter" since he kicked my ass like five times, but he is DEFINITELY not a good actor. So that he'd be lying, no, no, I think he's genuinely in denial. I think he's been told, but he simply doesn't believe it. God knows about Demyx. I feel so bad for him.
Not that Axel isn't curious, but for different reasons I hope will be explored. I'm interested in the new shiny CoM scenes in KH2:FM+, because there he honestly looks far more cold and evil than I ever suspected they were trying to present. The Axel around Roxas is an Axel that doesn't exist to ANYONE ELSE. Axel, then, is also kind of a bad fit. I actually suspect, what with Marluxia and Larxene, and then the basement crew, that the Organization is not half as organized as you'd think. I don't think they can play nicely, or that they have any organized concept of what they are. Even the scientists, I don't think they totally understood hearts then or understand them now. Maybe a heart isn't all you need to feel, maybe you wouldn't know you didn't have a heart unless someone pointed it out.
I don't think Axel's comments after his death to Roxas in the Final Mix are to say that Roxas does have a heart. If that was the case I think he'd be more interesting for that then having a keyblade and Vexen would have cut him up to find it and discover it's secrets. And if Roxas had a heart, Naminé would too (she's just as special damnit!) and she seems very aware that she doesn't and that her heart is in Kairi. So, no, I think he's actually trying to point out that no one has a CLUE about hearts. Maybe Axel could feel and he's just one of those codependent assholes who, like a bitchy siamese cat, only loves one person in the world and HATES EVERYBODY ELSE.