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Eden ([personal profile] wilderthan) wrote2009-06-26 01:52 am
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Musing: books - The unassailability of classics

When I'm on goodreads, Jane Austen inevitably seems to come up. And inevitably there are people who are intense fans of her work and think that she could never have done any wrong, that her work is all completely without flaw, etc, etc. Even got someone telling me I'm pretending to be an English Lit student -- that there's no way a "real" English Literature student could possibly dislike Jane Austen in any way.

I can understand the perspective that says Jane Austen's work has to be read with a consideration of context to get the most out of it. I totally get that -- it's the same with so many classic novels: you have to understand where they came from and when, to really understand what's at work in them.

However, no matter how classic a book is, I don't see why it should magically become unassailable in its own context. I read Jane Austen knowing about the context: that doesn't mean I can't think one of her characters is boringly over-nice (Anne from Persuasion) or irritatingly irrelevant to the plot (Margaret from Sense and Sensibility), or that I can't simply not get into the book (Pride and Prejudice), or that I can't just find the plot not to my taste (Northanger Abbey), or the ending abrupt (Lady Susan). A book being old and a classic doesn't mean there can be nothing technical wrong with it, even when taken in its own context.

In my opinion, nothing should be unassailable, regardless of age.

Also, crying out "it's a classic!" is not, in fact, a magical button that, once pressed, allows one to like books one just doesn't like.

I'll sit in my corner and mutter darkly now.

[identity profile] lil-1337.livejournal.com 2009-06-26 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Amen! Considering how little if any most of the classics got it's not surprising they don't always flow well. In addition to that any book whether is it a new best seller or a classic is going to appeal to some people and not to others. It makes me sad there are people who are so mired in their own opinion that they can not see the flaws in the things they love. It reminds me of a quote by someone I can not remember - "We like because, we love in spite of."

[identity profile] wilderthan.livejournal.com 2009-06-26 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Like Dickens! His books are sold as classics, all of them, but he was overly wordy sometimes because he was paid by the instalment. And because they were written in instalments, he didn't get chance at the end to go back and edit and make everything fit perfectly and slim it down.

I had someone who was just absolutely convinced I was "missing the point" re: Austen. I'm pretty sure I got the point, it just didn't impress me that much...

[identity profile] lil-1337.livejournal.com 2009-06-26 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Dickens is wordy and so is Hugo with the exception of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Hugo goes off on tangents that are long enough to be a book in their own right.

I've tried to read Don Quixote several times and love the idea of the story, but can not get into it no matter how hard I try. On the other hand I really enjoyed Moby Dick even if I did have serious 12 boy giggle fest over the scene where they were squeezing out the sperm oil and calling it sperm.

[identity profile] ruby-shards.livejournal.com 2009-06-26 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
WORD. This is why being an English major frustrates me. We read all these books and if I express a slight dislike of something in one of these books, then I am not a good English major because they're classic, I have to read them and like them.

*sigh*

[identity profile] wilderthan.livejournal.com 2009-06-26 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
The best ones are when they think Jane Austen is unassailable because it's classic and then bitch about Dickens. Oh, hypocrisy...